A saddle's useful life is determined in a large part by three things: first, its initial quality. Superior materials and workmanship will create a product that has a far greater chance of standing up to the test of time than inferior material and mediocre workmanship. The second factor is the use it receives. As we saw with Jenny Kimberly's saddle (mentioned here), "extreme riding" is hard on a saddle and will effect its lifespan, or at least the lifespan of its components. The third factor is the care it receives - if it's cleaned and conditioned regularly, has the flocking maintained regularly and is stored in a reasonably protected environment, its useful life will (or should) span many, many years.
But I'll repeat: even for the most pampered saddle, there will come a time when it's no longer "serviceably sound for its intended use". Sometimes it's hard to determine when the time has come to retire it ... even for a professional.
This saddle was in the shop on consignment. It's a Michael Stokes Centaur, made in the UK, a good example of a high-quality saddle that has seen good care, a long life and a lot of use (we're guessing it's at least 10 or 12 years old, if not more).
The saddle passed our usual safety check and had gone out on trial about 8 times before the right person and horse found it. But before the sale was finalized, however, the customer wanted me to check the tree. It seems there was a rather unsettling creaking noise ...
Flexing the tree did make it creak, and creak considerably. I dropped the panels and peeled back the gullet cover but didn't find any obvious cracks or loose rivets, and the lower head plate was sound. However, I did find just the slightest give somewhere when I flexed the head plate ... it creaked, but I couldn't pinpoint the cause. Any sort of give in that area indicates a major safety issue, so I was really determined to find out what was going on. I also noticed that there were two rather significant chips taken out of the tree in the cantle area (though those seemed unrelated to the problem, and I honestly don't know how they'd have gotten there):
Further staple pulling and leather peeling resulted in some pretty substantial wood chips coming out of the tree:
This sort of chipping is not normal when you're just pulling staples. It really made me wonder about the integrity of the tree (dry rot, perhaps?); you'll often get ugly holes if you're pulling escutcheon pins, but staples usually come out pretty cleanly, leaving only little holes behind. I was starting to worry about the advisibility of reconstructing the saddle even if I found no major damage ... but I still hadn't found what was causing the creaking noise, so I kept at it.
I pulled the seat foam off the pommel area and started to pry loose the webbing. The chipping increased quite dramatically in the "high staple" area (you can see a sizeable piece of wood between the legs of the staple near my thumb):
The upper head plate was intact, but when I pulled more staples and peeled back the leather from the rail just above the left stirrup bar, I found the problem:
The damage could have come from the stirrup catching on something and the horse pulling backwards / sideways, or it could have just been fatigue from constant use (remember, this is the left stirrup bar). The right rail was starting to bulge in the same area, though it hadn't actually cracked. I'm really glad the customer decided to have the noise checked. Sometimes a creak is nothing more than a loose rivet or the webbing rubbing on something ... and sometimes it's not. But without dropping the panels and exposing the tree (and sometimes, some determined digging), you can't tell for sure. Better safe than sorry.
Wow! Good thing you were intent on finding the reason for the creaking noise. Not everything will last forever. All good things must come to an end. Glad to hear no horses were sored or anyone got hurt when this one seems to have finally given up the ghost.
ReplyDeleteWhat about overly squeaky saddles? I love my Wintec 500 (adj. gullet)but it squeaks, not all the time (maybe 1 time out of 5 rides a week)..and only when being ridden in at the posting trot. It goes errr, eeeee, errr, eeee along with your posting rythm. :)I don't see anything wrong with it and it doesn't give anywhere, but the noise can get annoying :P Maybe its telling me to post more lightly haha.
ReplyDeleteVery informative post. I took apart a passier earlier this year and found the cantle had a few very large chips in it from being stored improperly.
ReplyDeleteRebecca- my old wintec did that. It was dirt between the stirrup leathers and the stirrup bars. Cleaned it and put some WD40 there because my leathers were synthetic as well.
Rebecca, as Syndey said, it could be dirt, or it could be "Wintec Squeak" - in the first case, cleaning should help, and in the second, a generous application of talcum powder under the flaps should quiet things down. You may also have a loose screw in the gullet plate - I'd definitely recommend taking a look. And if things don't quiet down, do have it checked. As I said before, better safe than sorry.
ReplyDeleteGreat advice everyone, thank you! I have a cleaning date tomorrow for sure. My leathers are synthetic as well. I will let you know if I find anything exciting!
ReplyDeleteYears ago I had a Dover ProRide dressage saddle which fit my horse very nicely... It squeaked only when I rode in my nice, custom boots (worth more than the saddle!). I finally solved the problem by putting thin cloth around the billets under the skirt panel. My boots made my leg really stick without moving, so the underside of the skirt would rub on the billets from movement.
ReplyDeletejust to let you no for future reference those chips out the cantle are from when the saddler is pulling the seat down and bulldogs/pillars catch the bottom of the cantle.
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